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VOSvoboda | 21Jun2013 | Yurij Michalchyshyn [13:20, Ukr]

Y. Michalchyshyn in talk-show Shuster LIVE 21.06.2013
Ю.Михальчишин у ток-шоу Шустер LIVE 21.06.2013

Published on 22 Jun 2013
Народний депутат України свободівець Юрій Михальчишин 21 червня 2013 року взяв участь у ток-шоу Шустер LIVE. Йшлося, зокрема, про події на Волині.
Відео підготував Микита Сафроненко (www.facebook.com/niksafronenko)

[W.Z. Yurij Michalchyshyn  discusses historical events in Volhyn, Ukraine and the present attempts by Ukrainophobes to foment dissension between Poles and Ukrainians.]

[00:00 - 00:09] Shuster asks position of Svoboda on the anti-Ukrainian resolution passed by the Polish Senate (concerning massacres of Poles in Volhyn during WW2).

[00:00 - 04:19] Michalchyshyn states that several hundred thousands of Ukrainians were cleansed from their native lands by the Polish Home Army, including his grandfather, an Orthodox priest, and his church burnt.
- During the inter-war years Poland was not a democratic nation -- quotas for University entrance; massive discrimination.
- The first concentration camp in Europe, Dachau, was opened in Munich, Germany in 1933. The second concentration camp was opened by the Poles in 1934 at Bereza Kartuzka (now in Belarus), in which many Ukrainian nationalists and communists were incarcerated.
- In power was a military-industrial junta, which considered 40% of inhabitants (Ukrainians, Jews, Lithuanians, Belarusans) as second class citizens.
- How does the Polish Home Army differ from the Ukrainian UPA? Both were national armies fighting against 2 occupants. One enemy was defeated in 1945, the other continued the occupation until 1991. The German concentration camps in Poland were taken over and perpetuated by the Red Army.
- We should remember all forgotten tragedies, not just the Polish tragedy in Volyn in 1943. It was a civil war with many mixed marriages where brother killed brother. But it must be remembered that during the 1930s there was a colonization policy of the Polish government which displaced Ukrainians and replaced them with Polish officers, bureaucrats, teachers, etc. Now the Polish Senate demonizes Ukrainians and lionizes the Polish colonisers. For whom is this hate-mongering necessary?

[04:20 - 05:29] Kshishtof Zanucci (speaking Russian) via Skype from Warsaw, Poland proposing reconciliation. He recognizes Polish atrocities against Ukrainians; it is time for Ukrainians to recognize atrocities against Poles.

[05:30 - 06:36] Mychalchyshyn is also in favour of reconciliation. Ukrainians recognize the Polish tragedies in Volhyn, but want Poles and Ukrainophobes to also recognize the pain that Ukrainians suffered.

[06:37 - 07:37] Ukainian woman spectator says that her father, sisters and whole family were killed by the Poles. It was Stalinist politics at work. As shoolchildren they had a rhyme "Lenin, Stalin, Voroshilov ... may you be suffocated". Communists were, are and will continue to be liars. "I am ready to forgive and let them forgive us. There is no other choice."

[07:38 - 07:59] Shuster asks why Svoboda insists that the terminology in Ukrainian statutes be changed from "Great Patriotic War" (from 22Jun1941 to 09May1945) to the "Second Great War" (from 01Sep1939 to 09May1945)? Why ? These people are still alive.
[08:00 - 13:20] Michalchyshyn takes the opportunity to wish good health to all participants who survived the "Great" war -- the ordinary soldiers, pilots, those in the trenches, etc. This war was a tectonic explosion of evil. The heros were ordinary soldiers in the Red Army, the German Army, the Italian Army and the partisans -- they were all equal before death and God. On the other hand,  for all those who wrote self-serving memoirs after the war, received Stalinist medals, those who promoted hatred, those who sent people into concentration camps, those who wanted to make the whole world a concentration camp -- there are no words in the lexicon to describe them. The term "Great Patriotic War" was created by Stalin in his speech on 03Jul1941, so as to omit his collaboration with Hitler to occupy Poland on 01Sep1939.  During this period, Soviet armies occupied Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Bukovyna, Bessarabia and attacked Finland. They fed Hitler's armies with Ukrainian bread, Caspian oil, molybdenum and coal from Donetsk. Bandera and Melnyk did not sign a pact with Hitler, but via the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact Stalin collaborated with Hitler. World War Two was thus a Soviet-Nazi initiated war resulting in the deaths of tens of millions of innocent people. The term for this conflict should be the "Second Great War" and not the "Great Patriotic War".